Why There Isn't More Narrative Journalism in Newspapers and how CitJ can Help

Why There Isn't More Narrative Journalism in Newspapers and how CitJ can Help

First off, when I think of immersion journalism, I think of literary journalism. They're closely related. Anyway, I noticed this piece over at Romenesko about WestWord's Storytime: The dailies are looking for characters, and I immediately thought about how Citizen Journalism could possibly help with the lack of immersion journalism and/or literary journalism in the world today. (The side discussion would be the whole chicken/egg debate about the apathetic state of the audience...)

Here's the nugget Romenesko picked out and the one that got me thinking:

Greg Moore adds: "One of the difficulties is identifying a subject that really warrants that kind of dedication of resources and space. And another is finding the right person to do it. A lot of reporters and writers want to get something into the paper tomorrow or next week. For them, the idea of following a subject or a theme for six months would make them pull their hair out."
Posted at 10:06:20 AM

The thing is, with citizen journalists covering something that interests them and a little help from trained journalists, these types of stories could be done, and done well online. You need a big enough audience contributing, though, because one person can't do it alone month after month without compensation. (There's that compensation thing again...)

The community, the voice of the people, could pick out what warrants a look at and take the time to do the stories.

From the West Word piece:

Rocky Mountain News editor/publisher/president John Temple echoes many of Moore's views, particularly when it comes to finding scribes with the chops for narrative journalism. "Long-form writing is something that most journalists are not trained for or skilled at," he says. "Some people are incredible reporters but weaker writers, and some are great storytellers but not great hard-news beat reporters."

This is perhaps one of the negatives to using CitJ resources for more literary journalism. However, online allows people to combine their skills. The backends of websites are somewhat collaborative (at least the good ones), but should they be even more so?

Just tossing some thoughts out there. Anyone going to bounce something back? Let's wrestle it out mentally and figure out how CitJ can be positioned to help - or if there's even a need (want) for literary journalism.





Ah, the thorny issue of the "Berlin Wall"

Hi, Kpaul. Great piece.

For some time, it's struck me that, when I speak to professional journalists and editors about citizen journalism, they generally view it as an unwelcome invasion of their turf, which raises valid professional and economic concerns for them. So they generally try to erect a kind of "Berlin Wall" -- "OK, we'll tolerate these invaders as long as they are strictly segregated from us and we don't have to have anything to do with them."

...I think your article chips away at that Berlin Wall a bit, by suggesting that citizen journalists could be encouraged and coached to provide a kind of content that newsrooms generally can't spare the resources to create, at least not very often.

So in a sense, you'd be asking for a kind of collaboration between the professional and citizen journalists.

Interesting. I just mentioned your article in the Poynter Institute's blog E-Media Tidbits (it should appear there sometime over the weekend), and in my citizen journalism blog "I, Reporter."
- http://www.ireporter.org/2006/01/citizen_mainstr.html

Let's see how this conversation develops!

Thanks,

- Amy Gahran
Contentious.com
RightConversation.com

Amy: Thanks...

it's good to know someone's actually reading. ;)

Another related thing would be using citizens as the news hounds and running (basically) an online rewrite desk - pick out the skills the citizens are good at and have them use those skills...

it does come back down to the pride thing, though - journalists breaking down that wall, humbling themselves enough to talk (honestly) with the citizens they serve...

and thanks much for the mentions. they're very much appreciated ;)

What's pride got to do with it?

Follow the logic: Journalists depend on sources. They aren't too proud to get information from people they haven't met before. (At least, we hope they aren't.) So if a citizen journalist provides information that a regularly paid journalist can use, that makes him or her a -- what, gang?
That's right, a source.
And here we find the highest level to which a ''citizen journalist'' can expect to achieve: that of a source.
That is part of what keeps bugging me about this notion of citizen journalists. No one has explained -- that I've heard or read, at least -- how we should differentiate a so-called ''citizen journalist'' from an ordinary, everyday source. Or even, for that matter, from a traditional journalist.
Here's a story I once heard: A guy launched a successful weekly newspaper. He started out, however, with single, letter-size sheets printed on an old Ditto machine (you have to be as old as I am to remember those) and just leaving them at different places in his town. Eventually, the attention to his work gathered to the point that he was able to add some advertising, and it grew from there.
Questions, class: Was he a citizen journalist? Did he stop being one, and when?
I sure don't know. And I don't think it matters.
One last thing: Where are all these citizen journalists? I live and work in a city of more than 100K people, at a paper that does well enough to boast about the highest percentage of circulation penetration in the country. You might think that citizen journalists would be lined up at the door to share their -- whatever they do -- with the public, with such a good forum at hand.
Don't see 'em. And I think I know why. It isn't that they are lazy or apathetic (I think someone said something about that in the main post to these comments, and I thought that was condescending).
It's because they figure, rightly, that if they have any talent, it's better spent using it to get paid.
Remember what Samuel Johnson said? Do I have to repeat it?
I will, because it's part of the bedrock of the business I'm in:
"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money."

pride + payment...

come on, soonerboomer, you gotta admit that 'professional journalists' (perhaps even those that never went to school for it) think they're somehow more informed than 'normal citizens' - i've seen it at the paper i worked at. maybe i don't have much experience, though?

also, you're spot on about the payment. it's a chicken/egg problem, though. how do you pay someone if you have no revenue coming in?

this is a good read about what some of the blog networks are doing to pay people to write for them...

citizen journalists are more than 'sources' because they actively participate on the website - they go above and beyond what normal 'sources' do.

and yes, your one-sheet to weekly guy was (from what you've said) a citizen journalist - even when he went to a weekly. (of course, maybe it depends on the content he put out as well...)

just some more thoughts. good to have a conversation going, though. ;)

No, I don't have to admit that ...

'professional journalists think they're somehow more informed' than any other particular person. Not the good ones, anyway. I have seen too many examples to the contrary, and few that satisfy the assessment in your comment. I work with many who have been on the job a very long time, but still seem, somehow - well, ''citizen-like,'' I guess you might say. They express awe at the command of facts owned by the people they interview. They are keenly aware of their own limitations. They approach sources with a professional humility which, by the way, helps them get the most out of them. Because that's their job.
Now, certainly, there are some who think they're above and beyond who they write for and about, and this may seem unfair to say (but it's not any more unfair than painting all pro journalists with the same, broad brush), but I bet they're easier to find on TV or in the coastal states (rather than in the fly-over states, like where we live). (That's a whole other day's worth, right there.)
But, herewith, my two points about professional journalists:
1. I can't think of a journalist who has lasted in his or her job very long who doesn't respect sources.
2. I think this demonizing of professional journalists is part of a rationalization being constructed to support a premise that, as I noted, seems to be more theory than practice - that of the ''citizen journalist.'' Not saying there aren't any; not saying they can't benefit the cause of good journalism. Just saying there is a limit to what they can and will be - and I'll say again, I haven't seen any on the ground, where I am. And all that brings me to my corollary point, which corrects an earlier mistake:
3. I said in my previous post that the highest level a citizen journalist can achieve is that of a source and, of course, that is not right.
A citizen journalist certainly has the option to join the ranks of professional journalists. I kind of demonstrated that in the anecdote about the Ditto-sheet guy. So I"ll eat those words.
But at least as often as that, they will be regarded as sources. That is how it is. No theory involved there.
But that is not condescension, either. Sources are not merely very important; they are all-important. It goes like this:
Good sources = good coverage. Everybody's happy.
Bad sources = bad coverage and somebody really gets in a lot of trouble. Remember Mary Mapes?
So it isn't a bad thing to be considered a source. But that is one side of the fork in the career path of a citizen journalist: source or pro.

you know what...

maybe it's 'wrong' (or non-PC) of me, but i think you're right with the television/coastal journalist thing. maybe that's where i was getting that idea.

just like there are good and bad professional journalists, there are going to be good and bad citizen journalists. and i don't think most want (or need) to become professional journalists.

you have to remember, though, that i'm with you on seeing the need for professional journalists. i'm not demonizing (most of) them... really.

you don't see them on the ground in your area because you work for 'the man...' no offense meant with that statement either. at this point in the game it's them that can pay journalists.

now, ask Geoff up in Chicago if people want to get involved. i know they do here. not all of them all the time, but some of them some of the time.

i still say there's room for people between the source and pro levels.

give me some more time, though...

Honestly, I want it to work

-- this whole thing about citizen journalism. But that's the deal: I want it to work.
If I work for 'the man,' then I'd better see some citizen journalists out here. And maybe I do, but not in the senses that most of the people who post here might call 'citizen journalism.' Like the county coroner who has just launched a monthly newsletter.
But if citizen journalists are part of the trend that is chewing away at print circulation, then maybe they just haven't taken root where I am. We know what has affected the circulation here to what small extent that it has, and it isn't the thousand flowers blooming of blogs or CitJ sites popping up all around us. Because there aren't any.
And it could be because when someone wants to sell us a freelance article or photo or something, we at least give them a shot, most of the time. Maybe that's it, too.
And ditto on the non-PC bit. It sure is nervy, I know. But I have been watching and taking mental notes for a long time and if you want to talk red vs. blue, North vs. South, or whatever, I think I can trump them with coastal vs. heartland. The biggest, most obvious differences appear in that comparison. Thing is, I think a coastal person is less likely to notice than heartlanders like you and me.
Why? This may seem silly, but if you watch the Food Network, for example, you'll see that the most attention is paid to coastal-type cooking; therefore, it is the most often promoted.
Study the daily news feeds and you'll see that a disproportionate amount of articles and photos file from the prominent coastal areas (and we don't need to name them here). That doesn't mean most stories will always file from there, but a day won't go by that you don't see something from them.
The result is that the coastal point of view is the one most broadly promoted in the public square. And you only have to dust off your history or sociology text to hook up to what that means.
It means that the compromises made on the coast in the name of trade and culture are pushed inland, and with much more insistence and success than in the past. That's not always a bad thing, but it certainly can present problems, as we have seen.
For example: People in Manhattan, Miami and Los Angeles, I'll bet, are more likely to say, yes, New Orleans should be rebuilt, regardless of cost. Folks in Des Moines, Denver, Muncie and Omaha are less likely to understand why anyone would live in an area that's a catastrophe waiting to happen, in the first place. But we know billions will be spent and work will be done to bring New Orleans back.
But, moving on, the effect on television, then, is obvious. Local TV reporters and anchors, especially in the heartland, are expected to perform on the same level and with the same attitudes as the major network counterparts whose anchor desks sit in the coastal areas. (I think the last time one didn't was when Max Robinson was the ABC anchor with a desk in Chicago, which lays a line to coastal culture through the Great Lakes.)
And big newspapers in the heartland, while insisting on uniqueness, look to papers in New York (mainly) for their cues on faith and practice.
When Dean Singleton wanted a new editor for the Denver Post, where did he go? To Boston.

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